Sunday, February 15, 2009

Menteri Besar Kurang Ajar

Hantu Laut

There is no other word befitting former Menteri Besar of Perak Nizar Jamaluddin......kurang ajar! This man is so in love with power he is willing to severely

embarrass the Sultan and behaved like a spoilt child.Most people with the right sense of mind would have accepted it and wait for the outcome of the court case.

He said he is not against the Sultan but what he did by attending the Sultan's silver jubilee celebration uninvited was intentionally done to cause embarrassment to the Sultan in front of his other guests. Nizar has thrown down the gauntlet at the Sultan.Maybe, it's time for the Sultan to respond

Since he has brought the case to court, isn't it proper to wait for the case to be heard and let the court decide.There may be 100,000 Perakians who say the Sultan is wrong because they listen to the skewed version from the people they supported. Do you think the kampong people know the working of the Constitution? Their sentiments would be based according to what the leaders in PAS and Pakatan explained to them.It is now without any doubt that Nizar had been encouraged by the leaders in PAS, DAP and PKR to ensure maximum damage to the Sultan's reputation. All the confessions that they were not against the Sultan were just lies and subterfuge.

Other Malay rulers should take caution, any of them could be next to face severe censure from Pakatan leaders and supporters if they are not happy with the ruler's decision even though there are provisions in the Constitution giving them the power to act accordingly.

Pakatan seems to have many highly qualified constitutional lawyers who think the Sultan was wrong in his decision, tantamount to accusing the Sultan of taking sides and favouring the BN to govern his state. Anwar Ibrahim who claimed to be the leader of the oppositions said they are not against the Sultan but appears to have no control over Nizar's tantalising and rude behaviour against the Sultan. Either that or he is hand in glove with the irascible former menteri besar to continuously hound the Sultan.Otherwise, there was no reason for Nizar to turn up at the palace uninvited.

Below is part of an article that appeared in Malaysian Insider that clearly shows the writer painting half a picture and not sure where he stands:

"But Malaysia is not an absolute monarchy but a constitutional monarchy. If it were an absolute monarchy, then Sultan Azlan Shah or any Malay Ruler would have complete power over all aspects of life in the state. In an absolute monarchy there is no constitution or legal restriction on the monarch's power.

But in a constitutional monarchy like Malaysia, the power of the Sultan is restrained by a parliament, by law, or by custom. In short, his decisions can be questioned and challenged. More so after 1993 when the constitution was amended by the Mahathir administration to remove the immunity Malay Rulers enjoyed from legal action".

You can read the full article here.

True, Malaysia is not an absolute monarchy.

Wrong, there are rules in the Constitution that gives rulers certain powers that shouldn't be challenged.

The Eight Schedule (Article 71)of Federal Constitution:Provisions To Be Inserted In State Constitutions.

(2) The ruler may act in his discretion in the performance of the following functions (in addition to those in the performance of which he may act in his discretion under the Federal Constitution) that is to say:

(a) the appointment of a Menteri Besar;

(b) the withholding of consent to a request for the dissolution of the Legislative Assembly;

(c) the making of a request for a meeting of the Conference of Ruler concerned solely with the privileges,position,honours and dignities of Their Royal Highnesses or religious acts, observances or ceremonies;

(d) any function as Head of the religion of Islam or relating to the customs of the Malays;

(e) the appointment of an heir or heirs, consort,Regent or Council of Regency;

(f) the appointment of persons to Malay customary ranks,titles,honours and dignities and the designation of the functions appertaining thereto;

(g) the regulation of royal courts and palaces.

The Sultan of Perak was an ex Lord President and well-versed in the rules of law.Would he stakes his name to do anything unconstitutional and to take sides?

All the Pakatan leaders knew these are the laws but they didn't give a damn because they were angry that they have lost the government and blamed the Sultan instead of themselves.They instigated their supporters to demonstrate to try force the Sultan to change his mind.Protest and demonstration is Anwar's brand of politics. Only he can spearhead such monumental demonstrations.

After the March 2008 Elections when the Sultan of Trengganu refused to swear in the menteri besar chosen by Prime Minister Abdullah Badawi, it was true Badawi was unhappy, but he stood down and eventually let the Sultan appoint the menteri besar of his choice.There was no huge demonstration and continuous show of defiance by Badawi and there was no threat of legal action against the Sultan.

When Mahathir amended the Federal Constitution to remove the immunity of the rulers it was confined mainly to civil and criminal cases and royal assent to Bills passed by Parliament.He did not curtail the constitutional powers of the rulers to deal with matters of state embodied within their respective state constitution.

All rulers can only be tried in a Special Court as set out in Article 182 of the Federal Constitution and cannot be tried personally without the consent of the Attorney General as set out in Article 183.

Why do you think Pakatan dropped the case personally against the Sultan? They found out that they can't sue the Sultan without the AG's consent.If it was that easy they would surely want to take the Sultan to the cleaners.Now, they have changed their tune and denied they are against the Sultan.How do you reconcile the two contradictory statements. We are not against you but we will disobey and show our defiance against you.

To Nizar and those in Pakatan ..... be civilised, stand down and wait for the court case.

For Perak Legislative Assembly Speaker V.Sivakumar, don't shame yourself, the government who put you there is gone, just go gracefully.

This the most stupendously stupid case I have come across.They have taken the case to court and yet still insisted they are the legitimate government and refused to let go and the Speaker talked cock about removing the new Menteri Besar.

How do you deal with this kind of people ? They want the best of both worlds.Have their cake and eat it.


kluangman said...

Kita terlalu banyak mengupas seorang bekas menteri besar yang kurang ajar dan derhaka.

Tetapi kita kurang dan seolah olah tidak ada menunjukkan siapakah guru yang patut mengajar.

Bukankah tindakannya seperti menghasut dan mengajak rakyat bersikap mengganggu keselamatan negara wajar diberi penghormatan untuk memasukkannnya di sekolah ternama di Taiping - berasrama penuh.

Adakah kerana guru besarnya yang akan bersara sebok menyiapkan surat permohonan lanjutan tempoh persaraan.

kittykat46 said...

I remember you were very, very strongly against Frogs when it was Anwar Ibrahim proposing it. Your condemnation was eloquent and forthright.

Strange silence, even I suspect, support for the method of change of government in Perak....I apologise if I'm wrong, but I'm not sure of the integrity of your opinions anymore.

Hantu Laut said...

Do not confuse the two issues.

My writing is not about the frogs.It is about the constitutional crisis.To support the Sultan whom I think was right doesn't mean I support defections.Although,Anwar and Pakatan leaders think only they have the privilege, I am still against it even if it comes from BN.

This is a question of law not of emotions and sentiments.

If you wish to disagree,you are most welcome, but appreciate you stick to the subject.

Hantu Laut said...

Sorry, I can't decipher your riddle.

Anonymous said...

“Justice is itself the great standing policy of civil society; and any eminent departure from it, under any circumstances, lies under the suspicion of being no policy at all.”

“All human laws are, properly speaking, only declaratory; they have no power over the substance of original justice”

Edmund Burke quote

Anonymous said...

“It is not what a lawyer tells me I may do; but what humanity, reason, and justice tell me I ought to do.”

Edmund Burke quote

Anonymous said...

Talking about law and constitution, V.Sivakumar remains Speaker of the DUN.
It is correct and proper according to the Constitution of Perak.

You do respect the constitution, don't you ?

vinnan said...

What Kurang Ajar?

Kurang Ajar to a Sultan who sold his state to UMNO for GAMUDA? All hail the new UMNO resident of Perak, Datuk Zambry.

Kurang Ajar to a Sultan whose forefather sold the Peninsula to the British with the Pangkor Treaty. Malay men had to call whites 'Tuan' while Malay women had to 'Kangkang' for whites. I am sure James W. Birch taught many Malay women a thing or two about the 'Ketuanan Orang Putih" sexual prowess compared to the emasculated Malay men.

Kurang Ajar to a Sultan with another relative who sold his state to UMNO. Here we have proof of how his daughter had to 'Kangkang' for the "I no speak Inglis" resident, Then the man kicked her out when she got pregnant. The Sultan of Selangor just kept quiet.

The resident system in Malaysia is still alive and kicking.

Anonymous said...

Your opinion looks like you are biased towards the ruling BN. What makes you think that you can make decision and make others to submit. Law and emotion are two different things. Why mix? Let lawyers deal the matter in court within the ambit of law. What's so wrong in taking a royal subject to court? Let the court decide....

Hantu Laut said...

Small boy shouldn't play with fire.Learn how to interpret the law first before you say something you don't even understand.

Hantu Laut said...


I am not bias, I am annoyed. The only biased people are in Pakatan and its foregone conclusion even if one make sensible comments most Pakatan supporters can only see as far as their noses.

Anonymous said...

“Watch your thoughts, for they become words.
Watch your words, for they become actions.
Watch your actions, for they become habits.
Watch your habits, for they become character.
Watch your character, for it becomes your destiny.”

SM said...


Since HRH betrayed Perakians, I guess HRH can face some betrayal in turn.
Only Allah is "faultless". Blind loyalty to the Royalty is crap.
It's about time the Malays get up & smell the coffe about the Royal Households.
I guess Nizar is the modern "Hang Jebat"!

Anonymous said...


you ask the Speaker to go coz the legitimate govt is now BN. Aint the BN govt in Perak is thru frogging? and hence arent you justifying frogging?

i dont see the disconnect as you suggest on kittykat46.

Anonymous said...


may be you should look at some of the banners unfurled by UMNO in their protests against HRH in Terengganu. Its not even postable. Wish you are a bit more consistent, thats all, to resonate with your claim of neutrality.

Nur Ain said...

Hantu: "The only biased people are in Pakatan and its foregone conclusion even if one make sensible comments most Pakatan supporters can only see as far as their noses."

You accuse others of what actually you are. (African proverb). No further comment!

Anonymous said...

I don't see how Nizar can be kurang ajar. I actually see him as a defender of the rakyat. Why don't we all have a state election to determine who is kurang ajar or are afraid of the truth. The truth often hurts.

Zakaria Oz said...

To call an old man who is a grand father again kurang ajar is to be indecent and immoral. You want to accuse him of being power crazy and all that but you show shallow craziness that's steeped in fantasy and sideshows. You have the temerity to tell the Perak Speaker not show "stupidness." In what way did he show it? Ot this comes as a fear that he will crush the Tamil Muslim Zamry govt? He was elected by the assemblymen, so get rid of him through the same. Nizar wasn't a poltroon in your mould who is sulking and sitting in a stingy room dishing out half baked rants but a professional who earned 40,000 a month onloy to be reduced to 15,000 as a politician and MB. There is nothing he has gained as a person but he represents the wishes of the people who elected him and all those who cherish righteousness.

Your imbecility is all evident in how you castigate the Merdeka Opinion poll by saying Perakians have listened to the propaganda of PAS and etc. Kak kak! By the way, Umno has a firm grip on all tools of propaganda in the nation and PAS and its partners have nothing in that regard that can reach Perak villages and neither do they own radios, TVs and mass media. But have you forgetten your too eager "analysis" (I like that) on KT when Merdeka Centre released a poll saying Malays were divided 50:50 and the Chinese were pro-opposition? Using that poll, you dished out street type analysis saying Umno was gaining ground in KT by pulling in Malay vote since Pakatan was bla bla bla...Pathetic! Then you were repudiated by Malay voters who sided with PR despite the 1.1 billion spending by Umno. Apart from your below par concoctions, did you see that you are eager to use a poll if it will satisfy your concoctions? Anyway, did Merdeka call on Pakatan supporters alone to state their stand on Perak's case or the pollsters contacted random people from all races and multifarious voters? You are amazing but for all the wrong reasons. It is like how you were so desperate in telling everyone: "No, I don't support any is all about opinion, bla bla" as if someone was holding a gun on your head not to state your preferences. There is a right of association and no one is begging you to side or not to side but to pretend to be impartial and again pseudo-intelligent is what makes even toddlers fall off their chairs laughing and you are in that ditch!

Hantu Laut said...

Zakaria Oz,

I do not wish to be rude but I wouldn't mince my word either, you are a bigot and a racist.It shows your true colour when you called Zamry a Tamil Muslim.The likes of you also called Mahathir by all kind of names. What happened to 'Bangsa Malaysia' that Anwar,other Pakatan leaders and hypocrite like you talked so much about.Is that exclusively only for Pakatan or for all Malaysians.

You can be a grandfather and still kurang ajar, there is no law of nature that says you are positively wiser as you grow older.Nizar is, I repeat kurang ajar towards the Sultan by making a mockery of him.I am not against you. My foot! When all his actions showed otherwise.If you think you are right and the people of Perak are behind you why don't you sue the Sultan and take him to the cleaners.The problem with you Pakatan freaks you see the devil hanging around every corner waiting to jump on you.

Who cares if he earned RM40,000 before and less now.That only shows how smart he is.

Instead of splitting hairs and reading in between the lines, since you are smarter in constitutional laws, why don't you argue on the content of what I wrote and part of the constitution that I quoted in my article instead of going to my past articles and trying to find faults with it, which, unfortunately, you failed miserably.It was a subjective article.Only small minds will pick on it and make an issue out of it.

If you can't think for yourself and need people like Merdeka Centre to influence the way you think, that's your business, I have every right to use my own faculty and make my own judgement, right or wrong.I don't have to use the poll by Merdeka Centre for my writing.

Whether you want to believe it or not, it's up to you. I have no love for the BN but I don't like Pakatan more than I don't like the BN and that's my democratic right.

There are too many hypocrites in Pakatan.One has just been exposed in the nude.More will come and may God help Malaysia if they were given the mandate to rule the nation.

Anonymous said...

You really ran out of the topic -we are talking about kurang ajar and u ran to a nude topic. If she did pose nude , don;t u think the person guilty is the one who took the photo ?

Zakaria Oz said...


I'm a Muslim and a Malay and from Perak. Zamry is a Tamil Muslim but married to a Malay woman and he is categorised as a Malay. Which part of it is racism in telling his TRUE race? Bangsa Malaysia doesn't mean denying one's race. It respecting one's race not hiding your race and putting on another, something many Zambryis have done and it is un-Islamic and immoral. If you were born a Tamil, you must remain one. Do you remember the Indian Muslim Alliance saying they should be recognised as Malays? Bcoz they know making easy kill is such an easy job if you claim to be Malay and lash out at other races like the Chinese and Indians.

Nizar did and doesn't need to sue the Sultan, neither did at anytime insinuated so. By him claiming to be the legitimate MB of Selangor, well then that's his constitutional right since he wasn't removed as per Perak's constitution. I quote Prof. SHAD SALEEM FARUQI who wrote:

"Can the Sultan dismiss him? It is submitted that life is always larger than the law. There are always unchartered territories. If an MB who has lost confidence, and is refused dissolution, is shameless enough not to walk away, then the Sultan would be justified in dismissing him, Article 16(7) notwithstanding.

But in Perak this was not the case. The question of losing confidence was not constitutionally investigated. There are many triable issues and the courts must accept the gauntlet."
He is living by the constitution.

Concerning the Merdeka Poll, I have shown your sheer hypocrisy in the sense that you accept the one that fits into your plans to reject the other one. Well, it takes two hands to make a clap.

Concerning your impartiality and neither pro-BN nor pro-PR, as far as I'm concerned, it is non-starter bcoz whether you support BN or PR, it is your choice. And anyway, you are in no position to be of any great value to any party apart from your single vote. But to pretend that you are impartial is to simply undermine your own credbility.

Pakatan has many hypocrites? Oh, so BN has many angels? Now that's a revelation I didn't know. Thanks for it. Nude? I guess you are referring to PKR's Elizabeth Wong. Well, I don't blame a woman whose private pixs were stolen and then distributed. That's not a mark, a benchmark for any standard. It is the 1st time I'm hearing someone blaming for being a victim of betrayal. Another sign of intellectualism indeed. Everyone has a vulnerable moment, but they have friends and wives/husbands to trust, but if one were to be betrayed, my sympathy always remained with the betrayed. All I can tell you is to be thankful for those who protected you be it wife or girlfriend.

And if your fear Pakatan being given the mandate of the people (never mind your impartiality joke here), probably you should educate us on the goods of BN for stupid, ungrateful harcore PAS and (DAP and PKR) people to reconsider. (he he). Wish you well anyway.

anti-illuminati said...


If $ultan suruh makan taik, are we suppose to makan taik ?.

Pls elaborate.

Anonymous said...

Malaysia tak perlu sultan raja dan sebagainya. Hapuskan institusi ini.
Hidup Demokrasi! Daulat Rakyat.