Friday, July 24, 2009

Read This:A New Disclosure

Hantu Laut

Is the MACC being flogged for crime that might have been committed by others.These are questions better asked by the police.We should not even in a moment of anger compose anything that's we are unsure of or have no evidence to support.

I wouldn't for a moment thought of such an extraneous subject let alone broach about it.

A possibility far remove from the thunderous storm whipped up by the oppositions against the Najib's government over the death of one Teoh Beng Hock. A death that has become a cause celebre of the opposition Pakatan Rakyat or a probable diversion from the truth, no one knows for sure.

A new blog has sprung up that tells a completely different story, one that will be vehemently denied, not on how Teoh died, but on the probable cause of his death. The blog is here.

Read with caution.

Pakatan supporters already saying the blog was put up by UMNO.Waiting for what Lim Kit Siang has to say.Raja Petra has his say here.


chaptokam said...

The truth shall prevail . The truth is out there : X Files

Self Destruct the key word .

eddy said...

Explosive Bro, I am guessing that the Police and MACC may already have most of the details since they have the notebook of the late Mr Teoh.

At the moment the T4TBH blog posting is just hearsay, somebody will pick it up and make a police report I am sure, and the Police will investigate zealously I hope. I am betting that all hell will break loose in DAP. It seems that the holier than thou party is not so squeaky clean after all. No wonder YB Theresa Kok calls YB Woo a shit stirrer.

Lim Kit Siang and Lim Guan Eng will be pissing in their pants already by now,DAP needs answers and more political diversions so much ado about competency, transparency and accountability just goobledegook to blind the rakyat.

DAP Ronnie Liu and Ean, though innocent until proven guilty will have a lot of explaining to do.

Better be ready with the right answers when the Police come calling eh YBs. YAB Khalid better have his answers also because as MB he is responsible for ALL his Excos in his Selangor Government.

The chickens are coming home to roost. I think the haze in Klang has gotten a lot better today.

Anonymous said...

HL n Eddy,

sometimes, you both are all too eager to stomp your feet whenever somethings are said about PR people...

I believe both of you are all middle age man and may be beyond, and would have passed through many waters, yet the way you responded sometimes gives me an impression you both are green horns.

you have the article, pore through the items and read for yourself with your vast experiences, may be by the time you had finished, you may not want to quote the website at all ! about old and experienced !

SM said...


Wow! Explosive!
So DAP killed Teo to cover up their "illegal underworld" activities (& blame it on the MACC)!
Why stop's pretty obvious Keadilan killed Altantunya (after all why would Najib's bodyguards kill her? For fun? Of cause not. It's clear Keadilan paid them to kill her to frame Najib & Razak).
The PKFZ was orchastered by PR to shame OTK & MCA!
Lingam Tapes? As Lingam said in his own words..."looks like me sounds like me but it's not me!" Clearly, another PR plot!
Next, Kugan, HINDRAF killed him to cause a public outcry & thus put pressure on UMNO to release Uttaykumar from ISA.
Yes, the Police will investigate zealously, for sure! For the moment, letthe crime rate soar, forget those murdered & or kidnapped children. & hwta's a few deaths caused bu snatch thieves? We can't allow these "murderous" Opposition Politicians to be free!

Hantu Laut said...

You are quick to the draw without reading my article in its true spirit

"We should not even in a moment of anger compose anything that's we are unsure of or have no evidence to support".

"I wouldn't for a moment thought of such an extraneous subject let alone broach about it."

That should be enough to tell you what my take is on the article T4TBH.

SM said...


My apologies. I think I will "lay off" Malaysian Politics for awhile.
The Racial & Dirty Politics in Malaysia has come to such a point that I truly believe that it's only a matter of time before an "implosion" will occur.
When the next GE comes along I will vote as I have done many times in the past in the hope that my 1 measly vote may make a difference.
As for Najib & his 1 Malaysia...well...good luck, I hope it is achieved but I fear it will turn nasty pretty soon.
The PR supporters will say it's the BN & the BN supporters will say it's PR (just look at the comments in this Blog, you can see the divisions drawn clearly). At the end of the day they are all Malaysians Politicians & I finally agree with my friends & relatives who have migrated...sadly the grass looks indeed greener on the other side!

Hantu Laut said...

Don't give up, fight in what you believe in. There is nothing wrong with that as long as you do it with civility.

We are free to choose which political party we support, there is nothing wrong with that too.

Our differences in political ideology should not make us enemies.

Anonymous said...

whats your take, hantu?

eddy said...

Yes SM, the grass is always greener on the other side but I tell you what Bro, hujan emas di negeri orang, hujan batu di negeri sendiri, macam mana pun baik juga di negeri sendiri.

eddy said...

Anonymous 10:28, I think it is odd that DAP Ronnie do not want to lodge a police report against the T4TBH blog. He was quoted in Malaysiakini as saying that he would not be lodging a police report because he believes that “they cannot help much”. Rather odd don't you think, have Ronnie or Ean something to hide? Berani kerana benar or Takut sebab memang bersalah?

chaptokam said...

Well it is stranger still coming from RPK under No Holds Barred on this Truth for Teh Beng Hock under the Headline :
Was Teoh Beng Hock assassinated by the DAP?
Now that is what I called really strange , why did he RPK chose to use that caption ?
Is he telling us something that we only guess and that he knew about it ? Oh Yes he gets insider information and documents , including classified documents and SDs .
So I would say he's telling us something about what he knows in a way he cannot be accused of whacking the DAP .
Now that is really really strange , but spin ? hell NO !! its a message .

The other thing is besides insinuating that Teoh Beng Hock was assassinated by the DAP ,
the other blog Truth for Teoh Beng Hock t4tbh didn't mentioned anything at all or tried to insinuate that TBH was assassinated or murdered by anyone ..
All it did was to release selected documents containing list of projects for Sg Pelek constituency
Documents containing 83 projects (item 89 to 172) in Sg Pelek constituency given to one Wong Chuan Chow. The constituency is under the purview of Ronnie Liu.

So what does that tell you ? That RPK is in the know ? Very strange ...I am beginning to sense that he knows something after all .

chaptokam said...

Coming from
UPDATE Just found out it’s a frickin’ HOAX.
Ronnie Liu is not ADUN for Sungai Pelek. He’s ADUN for Pandamaran.
Phew. Oh Aisehman of little faith.
And Ronnie, I apologise. Profusely.
Now I’m really curious – who the hell started the blog?
HOAX ?? read it for yourself - self explanatory......

Asked why he took charge of the state allocation for the Sungai Pelek constituency, he said there were caretaker assemblymen for each constituency won by Barisan representatives.

“This was decided by the state exco because we do not trust Barisan assemblymen,” he said.

Liu also explained why Sepang municipal councillor Wong Chuan How was a recipient of many payments in the constituency.

“Wong is not a contractor. Sometimes cheques go to my service centre first, and Wong is the account holder to my service centre. This happens when we cannot issue cheques directly, such as (payments) for curry puffs, canopies and PA system,” he said.

chaptokam said...

Rebutting every point made by the blogger, Liu said there were glaring errors in the blog – including documents listing expenses for programmes implemented in January and February last year.


Ronnie the headline .!!!

Selected documents containing list of projects for Sg Pelek constituency
Documents containing 83 projects (item 89 to 172) in Sg Pelek constituency given to one Wong Chuan Chow. The constituency is under the purview of Ronnie Liu.

It states Item 89 to 172
item 88 dd 05.03.08 - Era Terbilang
item 89 dd 04.07.08 - Wong Chuan How (start here..look at the date )
item 172 dd 20.11.08 - Wong Chuan How ..

Ronnie why bother to quote item 88 and before ? when the blog explicitly quotes 89 to 172

This happens when we cannot issue cheques directly, such as (payments) for curry puffs, canopies and PA system,” he said.

Ronnie ..No petty cash voucher ???

chaptokam said...

Ronnie ,
What say you about this article ?? That the number of licenses issued for massage parlours are doctored ? fictitious ?

Massage parlours still mushrooming in PJ

DESPITE the freeze in issuing licences for massage parlours in Selangor by the state government last year, such premises have been seen mushrooming at a rate that had even changed the outlook of popular spots in Petaling Jaya.

Areas like SS2, Kota Damansara, Sunway Mentari and Damansara Utama have grown from being popular spots to seek food and are now hot spots for those looking for a good rub.
Hard at work: MBPJ enforcement officers raiding a massage parlour recently.

A check by StarMetro recently noted that such outlets had multiplied and many had opened within the last six months.

During a recent visit to an outlet in SS2, an operator told us that business was tougher than before as almost all shops are offering deals of up to 50% discounts for customers visiting during lunch hour.

He said many in the area were old operators but new ones were slowly seen occupying vacant lots.

A masseur, who only wanted to be known as Wong, even pointed to a shop which is now under renovation and said it would be turned into a massage parlour.

“We were told that no one can apply for new licences but we still see new ones coming up, maybe it is easier for those running a big chain of parlours,” Wong said.

Just like Wong, many are aware that applications for licences had been put on hold but they wonder how newer outlets were still able to operate with a proper licence in hand.

Wong also said the council did conduct raids on the premises and sometimes this caused problems as well.

“Once, when they came and I showed them our licence, the officer told me that my licence could be fake and they needed to check on it, I had to close my shop for three days because of that,” Wong said.

He also added that licences for foot massages were much easier to obtain than for those who wanted to operate both foot and body massage parlours.

“It is easy but we don’t earn much from foot massages, which is why everyone wants to do body massages,” Wong said.

He added that some outlets did not have the proper licences for body massages, but they still provided the services illegally.

The outlets in Petaling Jaya have similar opening hours starting at 11am and finishing at about 1am.

A drive to Kota Damansara saw more than 20 massage parlours in full operation, some occupying up to two floors of a shop house with large banners promoting the list of services available.

Whether it is for your foot, body, shoulder or neck, these centres have it all covered with health descriptions and benefits of each therapy.

Workers in such outlets comprise a mix of locals, Thais, Chinese and Myanmars who are all well trained but speak very little English.

One masseur from China who wanted to be known as Lin said the job was easy and paid well.

Lin said she could earn up to RM1,800 in commission monthly and had no worries on the accommodation as it was provided by her employer.

The 27-year-old said business at the centre picked up from 9pm onwards, hence the afternoons were quite relaxing.

She added that the agent would send them for classes where they were taught the Taiwanese massage style before they could start working at the outlet.

rest of article here :

chaptokam said...

Comparing the documents posted on and Ronnie Liu's pusat-khidmat-komuniti-dun-n56-sg-pelek.doc

There are some data missing . All the items and payment amount are correct and identical , so how could Ronnie say its doctored ? In his document , there's no mention of to whom the payment was made to ..whereas in t4tgh there's mention it was paid to Wong .
Coming to the first item :
item 1 ) Penyewaan mesin fotostate untuk tempoh setahun bagi kegunaan Pusat Khidmat Komuniti DUN N56 Sungai Pelek ; 7200.00 paid ...

Isn't it cheaper to buy a fotostat machine costing about a thousand plus ringgit and give it to the pusat rather then renting ( penyewaan ) it at a cost of 7200 a yr ? and for every subsequent year ? Imagine if it was rented for four years , it would have cost nearly 30000 ringgit ! Could have bought a lot of equipment for that sum . Doesn't make sense ..I must say .
So Ronnie what say you ...? And this is just the first item on the list .......I tak berani to go thru the rest of the items...

chaptokam said...

Her's the latest update ...

MYSTERY: Fictitous community projects to siphon money?

By Malaysia Betul

The implicated parties the mentioned in the blog Truth for Teoh Beng Hock namely, Ronnie Liu, Ean Yong Hian Wah and Wong Chuan How called for an immediate press conference last Friday.

Ronnie's response was expectedly a denial. He riled about few factual errors spotted regarding timing. Further, he was irate at the blog's revelation of method to extract commission for DAP Assemblymen and DAP.

The Pandamaran Assemblymen vehemently refuted the details in the list. He said each application for allocation is supported by letters as well as photographs. It is up to the District Officer to scrutinise or reject them.

He said, “The complete set of documents is available at the Sepang District Office.”

Wong was reported by Malaysia Insider as saying, “Many of the projects listed in the documents in the blog are fictitious.”

He was not aware of some of the projects in the list.

Let's leave aside standard political answers to deny and lambast their opponents. The revelation on the commission breakdown requires further evidences. Just focus on Ronnie Liu's claim of his complete list and Wong's claiming no knowledge of certain projects.

The list published on the Internet could not have appeared out of thin air. Items claimed by both cannot be simply fabricated. For that matter, let's assume Teoh Beng Hock did made a copy for someone to keep and reveal in the event his life is endangered.

If all is right and exist, doesn't that raises the possibility of fictitous projects not known to Wong but placed in Wong's name in the 'real' list revealed by the blog? The fictitous projcts becomes the conduit for someone to siphon money out of the Assemblymen allocation.

It is easy to dispell it aside as small but the modus operandi is more serious than those rent seeker taking percentages. This is fraud and success at the smaller scale only leads to attempt for bigger size fraud!