Friday, August 8, 2008

It's Consenting Adults Now ?

Hantu Laut

From being forced (rape) to engage in sodomy,it has now become consensual sex, which means sex between consenting adults.One is charged and the other one is not, so our learned minister says Saiful can't be charged because he is the complainant, but the law says sodomy is a serious criminal offence, irrespective of whosoever engaged in it.

Assuming I had a fight with my friend and I was the aggressor and bashed him up but was the first one to lodge a police report, so I am the complainant, I shouldn't be charged.

What kind of justice system we have in this country.Charge the victim not the perpetrator. Below is part of my blog post on 25th July.

"No matter how much I wanted to believe that Anwar might be guilty of the allegation, it is even harder to believe that Anwar can force himself on a young man of Saiful age six times before he felt utterly disgusted and ran to lodge a report first with the DPM and than to the police.If it was against your will, wouldn't you run away and lodge a police report the first time it happened or was it consensual and something had gone terribly wrong?"

I would still give Anwar the benefit of the doubt.Now we can rule out rape of Saiful.He has unashamedly admitted to consensual sex with Anwar.It would be interesting to know why he changed his mind after the sixth time.

I believe many of you would still remember the arrest of John DeLorean back in 1982 on charges of drug traffiking.The court throw out the case when the judge found out he was set up by the FBI, an entrapment, which is illegal in the U.S.That speaks volume of law enforcement agency and their capacity in resorting to dirty tactics.

De Lorean is the founder of the DeLorean Motor Compnay which ran into financial trouble and was accused of drug traffiking to raise money to save the company.The company went bankrupt in 1982 and closed down for good.

Let's hope justice prevails in this country.

P.I disappeared,doctor disappeared,a blogger charged for sedition, another blogger arrested and an ex DPM charged for sodomy.

It looks like the government have shot itself in the foot.

7 comments:

kittykat46 said...

We don't have Rule of Law in this country.
We have Rule by Law i.e. using the law as a bludgeon to silence or destroy any political problem to the regime.

Yes, reading between the lines, the Prosecution's use of Section 377B to charge Anwar means they don't have a case to prove rape or other forms of coercion.

So Saiful was enjoying it all the while ?

Botak still thinks we are all easily fooled...

Anonymous said...

HL,

You finally see what the BN (read: UMNO) is doing now don't you?
From Rape to Consenting Adults?!
Oh God! The whole world sees it except the BN!
You still think we should keep this Government until the next GE? By then, they would have properly screwed up everything & probably caused so much hatred between the races that we'd probably be at each other's throats!
God save us from the BN!

Anonymous said...

Consenting or not, one thing is clear then, both party are committing sins according to Islamic Law.

Anonymous said...

Hey, I just read that Anwar is confident he will be the next prime minister. How about that? Maybe he can legalize gay marriage.

Kerry said...

Its gotta be consensual now because there have been plenty doubts about DSAI's capabilities of assault and Saiful's incapabilities of resistance. I simply cant digest that this is really happening, that the government seems like they have a free hand with the country and the rakyat, like they own it and us.

A.B. said...

Hantulaut: Assuming I had a fight with my friend and I was the aggressor and bashed him up but was the first one to lodge a police report, so I am the complainant, I shouldn't be charged.

Yes, if the fight has no witnesses, this is what this stupid law is tantamount to.

Anonymous (August 9, 1:10 AM):
Consenting or not, one thing is clear then, both party are committing sins according to Islamic Law.


Right on!!

In the light of both Hantulaut's post and the above comment, I would hereby strongly urge Syariah court officials, if Islam and its holy book are to be properly respected, to come with handcuffs when Saiful swears on the Quran that he had sex with Anwar, and to arrest him on the spot. From my understanding of Islamic jurisprudence, Saiful will be guilty either of the act of sodomy or of falsely accusing someone else of being a sodomist. As Saiful cannot produce four witnesses, he will automatically be guilty of the latter offence. Falsely accusing someone of sodomy is a very serious and unpardonable offence in Islam, and the offender should be lashed 80 times. So serious is the offence, that in the Shi'a interpretation of Islam, the offender would, in addition to being lashed 80 times, also be excommunicated from the religion. Excommunication is not practised in this instance in Sunni Islam only because Sunni imams and judges do not have the same clout, and there is more personal communion between the believer and God than in Shi'a Islam, but there is no questioning the gravity of the offence in Sunni Islam as well.

Hantulaut: P.I disappeared,doctor disappeared,a blogger charged for sedition, another blogger arrested and an ex DPM charged for sodomy.

It looks like the government might just have shot themselves in the foot.


Yes, not only has it shot its foot several times over, but it has shot other parts of its anatomy as well. As a consequence, it is now an emasculated, limping animal, no longer able to control and lead its flock. Will Anwar make it to the prime ministership next month? With the latest turn events, especially with UMNO members engaged in a life-or-death fight with each other, it looks more likely than before. Anwar will now be P.M. not because of his brilliance (although that, even his enemies acknowledge, is not in short supply), but because the present government, now badly suffering from self-inflicted injuries, will accidentally give it to him on a platter.

fie the elf said...

lets just bash each other up then and the winner is the one who goes to the police station first. how fun. ill get to kick the balls of the people i hate and not go to jail.