This is the man whose party will be part of the new government if Anwar Ibrahim takes over in September.
This is what he said yesterday:
Sumpah Mohd. Saiful bercanggah dengan Islam - Nik Aziz
Katanya, apa yang dilakukan Mohd. Saiful itu sama dengan penganut Kristian menggunakan Bible.
Menurut beliau, Islam hanya menerima sumpah Wallahi, Wabillahi dan Watallahi. -(Utusan)And this is what he said last month:
Nik Aziz: Bersumpah junjung al-Quran tentukan kebenaran
04-07-2008 10:04:01 PM
KOTA BHARU: Menteri Besar Kelantan Datuk Nik Abdul Aziz Nik Mat berkata "mubahalah" atau bersumpah dengan menjunjung al-Quran adalah cara untuk menentukan kebenaran dan juga sesuatu yang dituntut dalam Islam.
Sambil menyokong cadangan Mufti Perlis, Dr Mohd Asri Zainul Abidin berhubung perkara itu, beliau berkata melalui cara demikian, Allah SWT boleh melaknatkan manamana pihak yang bersalah.
"Dalam Quran sudah menyebut, setelah sudah tiada ikhtiar lagi dalam menyelesaikan kemelut yang memalukan itu, siapa yang tidak bersalah Tuhan tolong," katanya kepada pemberita ketika ditemui di sini, hari ini.
Beliau yang juga Mursyidul Am PAS berkata demikian sebagai mengulas cadangan Mohd Asri supaya keduadua individu yang dikaitkan dengan kes liwat iaitu Penasihat Parti Keadilan Rakyat Malaysia (PKR) Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim dan bekas pembantunya, Mohd Saiful Bukhari Azlan "bermubahalah" atau bersumpah.
Dalam kenyataannya semalam, Mohd Asri berkata isu liwat yang membabitkan Anwar sudah semakin rumit dan rakyat pula menjadi keliru.(Bernama)This is what Ronald Reagan said about politics "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first."
Tell me how can the man, a tok guru, can be so confused about his own religion?
Is PAS truly an Islamic party?
Hoi! Tok Guru! Betoi kah ini cerita agama?
We Muslims are sensitive lot.Here's something that should upset members of PAS and not upset the non-Muslim community, courtesy of MYKMU.NET:
Charles De Gaulle once said "Since a politician never believes what he says, he is quite surprised to be taken at his word."
Who should we believe in now?
Here is another one that even my 4-year old precocious grandaugher would know sounds stupid,making a storm in a teacup:
UiTM plans legal action against MB
SHAH ALAM: Universiti Teknologi Mara (UiTM) Vice Chancellor Datuk Seri Prof Ibrahim Abu Shah said the university will take legal action against Selangor Menteri Besar Tan Sri Abdul Khalid Ibrahim for refusing to apologise for proposing that it admit 10 per cent non-Bumiputera students. He said Khalid should apologise for making the statement on UiTM as it was not only unethical and degrading to the university but also not true at all.
"We are not hard-headed on this issue but the statement is 100 per cent wrong. We can accept criticisms if what was said was true," he told a media conference after opening an alumni homecoming programme at UiTM, here, Saturday.
Khalid had proposed that UiTM admit 10 per cent non-Bumiputera students and claimed that its students were unfriendly, of poor quality and non-competitive. His statement angered UiTM students nationwide who held demonstrations to protest the proposal.
The Menteri Besar had refused to apologise to UiTM claiming he was not questioning the special rights of Bumiputeras and the establishment of UiTM. Ibrahim said UiTM did not want to make enemies of the other races which was proven when the Chinese and Indians were recruited as the teaching staff.
"His statement (Khalid) had instigated non-Bumiputeras to hate the Malays and vice versa. It can also create hatred among the Malays," he said. - Bernama
Even though some of us might not agree with it, is there a law against making constructive criticism and suggestion?
Go back to school, mate! With this kind of mentality I don't blame Khalid Ibrahim for making the suggestion.It's not the students to be blamed, it's more a case of "bad teachers, bad students".
The mediocre education in this country is not the fault the students,it's the fault of the education system and that of the teaching profession.
Khalid Ibrahim, you don't have to apologise, it's not a crime to make suggestions.
Here's more on Anwar's sodomy charge:
Saiful had taken the oath on the Quran — regarded by many Muslims as the most serious form of oath-taking in Islam — on the eve of nomination.
Anwar has repeatedly refused to take up the challenge to do the same.
He told reporters yesterday that he had been advised by religious experts that this is not an Islamic practice.
“You are making a mockery of Islam,” he said.
Anwar insisted that the authorities, which have charged him with sodomy, have no proof.
“I have seen the first (medical) report and I am privy to the second report, and based on that, they have no case against me,” he said.
Anwar also said he has finally received a copy of the police report made by his accuser, which he said was inaccurate.
At a late Saturday night rally in a small neighbourhood, he took great efforts to counter the allegation of sodomy, and recounted how he was stripped and his private parts measured during a medical examination.
The sodomy accusation, although believed by the majority of Malaysians to be a political conspiracy, had taken a new twist after Saiful swore on the Quran that he was sodomised.
Analysts believe that this might cast doubts in the minds of some rural Malay voters.
“For us Muslims, this is important. No one can lie swearing on the Quran,” said Sapiah Ali, a hawker and voter in the constituency. (Malaysian Insider)
I wonder who was the religious expert who advised him, if it was Nik Aziz than I am sorry for him.Nik Aziz had proven he is more a politician than an Islamic scholar.
Well, if Anwar decides to do the same for political expediency, than we should know who is the liar.
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I'm not surprised at all, I call it PAS political culture. PAS is using religion as its political tools.
Some example.... " Undi PAS masuk syurga", "God swear", "Nepotisme dibenarkan dalam Islam"..... the list goes on..
Molongkolong
Encik letak salah gambar tu... yg kata saiful salah cara bersumpah tu awang hadi bukan nik aziz
These are politico-ulamaks. I am now confused by their varying stand. In the end I think I shall just do my own reading/studying and evaluate from there.
HL, how do you read these politicians? I don't trust any of them, whatever their political colour. Not a one.
Cynic
HL,
I am a bit disappointed with Tok
guru on this matter. You are right, he did mention that swearing on the Quran was one way of solving the issue. The sudden twist was an absulute shock! To my knowledge the Quran is the absolute authority, swearing by it is simillar to swearing by GOD which is common among Muslims. Is it because that only the truth is associated with the Quran that Anwar dare not swear by it??
"Saiful had taken the oath on the Quran — on the eve of nomination."
Is there any more doubt that this is a political prosecution ?
The timing of the latest move just clinched the confirmation for me.
I have not the slightest doubt that Saiful's swearing on the Koran constitutes contempt of court and that it is a blatant attempt at trial by media and perversion of the course of justice.
(If and )When the civil court trial gets underway, Saiful will have to testify and in order to do that he WILL have to swear on the Koran. He knows it, his lawyers know it and the police know it. The whole world knows it!
So, why did Saiful pre-empt proceedings by swearing in public so conveniently on the eve of nomination day at Permatang Pauh? More so since DSAI had already filed a case against him in the Syariah Court!!
Obviously to politicise his case and also to influence voters and public opinion. Can there be conduct more scurillous than this?
I call upon the Chief Justice of Malaysia to intervene and dismiss the charges and case against DSAI in view of this gross contempt of court. The presence of the police and Saiful's lawyers at this pathetic behaviour lends further credence to public perception that a mockery has been made of the due process of our Judicial System.
This misbehaviour may well have set a dangerous precedence and grounds for a spate of thieves, robbers, rapists and muderers to misuse religion to sway public opinion and evade the clutches of our Civil Courts.
It is incumbent on the part of our CJ, Minister of Law, PM, Parliament and The Agung to nip things in the bud, post haste!!
http://donplaypuks.blogspot.com
Memang ternyata ANWAR sendiri adalah pengkhianat bangsa dan agamanya sendiri.. baca artikel dibawah
Anwar si pengkhianat bangsa Melayu dan Islam sekali lagi menghina dan memcerca bangsa Melayu sebagai bodoh. Sila baca artikel yang ditulis oleh RPK botak yang tiada otak dalam MalaysiaNoday mengenai kenyataan Anwar anak Ibrahim.
Siapa sebenarnya bodoh? Yang pasti ialah Anwar Ibrahim kerana dia masuk UM dulu dengan hanya mendapat 1 prinsipal sahaja. Walaupun Anwar ini bodoh tetapi kerana hak keistimewaan Melayu, dia dapat juga masuk UM walaupun hanya dapat mengikuti kursus yang paling mudah di UM iaitu Pengajian Melayu. Walaupun mengikuti kursus yang mudah, kerana kebodohannya, Anwar tetap gagal pada tahun pertama.
Sekali lagi kerana hak keistimewaan Melayu, Anwar diberi peluang untuk “repeat’ di UM. Tetapi, pada hari ini Anwar anak Ibrahim ini begitu lantang mempersoalkan hak keistimewaan Melayu yang pernah membantunya mendapatkan segulung ijazah yang sekadar “General Degree” iaitu ijazah paling rendah tarafnya kerana kebodohan Anwar. Jika tidak Anwar anak Ibrahim ini hanya seorang lepasan STPM sahaja. Manusia yang mungkin menjadi pemandu kereta taukeh-taukeh bukan Melayu.
Jika dia tidak dapat masuk UM kerana hak keistimewaan Melayu, maka dia tidak dapat menjadi wakil pelajar dan dikenali ramai termasuk oleh Tun Mahathir yang mengangkatnya naik menjadi seorang pemimpin. Tetapi, hari ini kita melihat si tanggang bodoh bernama Anwar anak Ibrahim ini sanggup menghina dan mengkeji bangsa Melayu Islam semata-mata inginkan kuasa dunia.
Students who have the potential to excel in their studies should be given equal opportunities to pursue tertiary education, said PKR adviser Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim.
All students, regardless of race, should have the chance to “rise to the occasion” and fulfil their potential, he stressed.
Anwar also touched on the suggestion by Selangor Mentri Besar Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim that 10% of Universiti Teknologi Mara (UiTM) intake be open to non-Malay and foreign students.
“Khalid was only talking about opening one or two courses to non-bumiputras. But Umno views it as selling off UiTM to the Chinese,” he said at a dinner with Chinese voters in Sungai Lembu near here last night.
He said smart Chinese, Malay and Indian students should be given every opportunity to move up the ladder.
“If the Malays are smart, let them rise. The same applies to Chinese and Indians,” he said. “Who benefits from this? Everyone.
“The Government benefits and so does the economy.
“But now, we uplift Malays who are not smart. Everyone loses and the share market drops.”
He also said not all Malays were corrupt or thieves, adding that the good ones had the capability to make the country prosper
molongkolong,ketam,icanbarb,cyclone,and kittykat46,
Not all ulamaks are bad but I don't particularly trust those in politic.Although I am a Muslim I still believe religion and state should be separate.
Malaysia is a multi-racial and multi-religious country, to impose the will of one religion onto another is not democratic and against the constitution.Politicians used it as political expediency to garner support.
Without moral value religion is just a name.
donplaypuks,
I think the two are separate and does not supersede each other.Swearing on the Quran does not mean he is innocent.
Anwar cannot be tried in two courts of different jurisdiction,one have to be squashed.It is most likely he be tried in the civil court.
I think if everything fair, the civil court is a better choice than the Sharia court.
ketam,
Relax lah brader.Jangan tergesa-gesa,kan ini negara berdemokrasi.Siapa pun boleh berkata apa-apa sahaja,asal jangan buat fitnah atau cerita bohong.
Anwar kan tokoh politik memeng sebegitu.
Apabila jadi pemerentah, mungkin cerita akan bertukar.
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