Thursday, May 20, 2010

Banning The Islamic Veil

Hantu Laut

First the minaret.The Swiss see the sharp pinnacle as an ominous bird of prey ever ready to pounce on them and devour them in a flash.Couldn't figure out where the threat came from.Now, the French see the purdah or niqab as a threat to their culture and have decided to impose a total ban of wearing the Islamic veil.

Would there be backlash violent in nature? Muslims are easily ignited by thing like this, by thing they see as an attack on the religion.A backlash from the extremists wouldn't be far-fetched.

Although, I don't agree with the French on the ban as it is an encroachment into a person's personal liberty, I also believe Muslims should try liberalise some of the negative aspect of their practices if they were to fit into the society they live in.As they say 'when in Rome do as the Romans do'.It is fine to use the purdah in the desert of Arabia when the desert storm is blowing in your face but why must women be forced to use this most uncomfortable attire in less harsh environment.

I can feel with the French people's discomfort with the purdah.Can you tell what's under the dress, a man or a woman?

Only a small fraction of Muslim women wear the purdah, either forced by the husbands or forced by peer pressure.

The French is taking a big risk imposing the ban.With so many act of terrorism can we blame them for being jittery?

Nicolas Sarkozy's cabinet approves bill to ban full Islamic veil

Despite warnings move could be anti-constitutional, French president gives it his full backing

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Kenza Drider, born in France to Moroccan immigrant parents, who defends the right to wear the veil. Photograph: Remy De La Mauviniere/AP

Nicolas Sarkozy defended his ambition to impose a total ban on women wearing the full Islamic veil today, despite warnings that such a move could be anti-constitutional and socially incendiary.

As interior minister Michèle Alliot-Marie presented the bill to the French cabinet, the president reiterated his determination to crack down on a garment he considers to have no place in a secular society committed to women's rights.

"We are an old country anchored in a certain idea of how to live together. A full veil which completely hides the face is an attack on those values, which for us are so fundamental," he told his ministers. "Citizenship has to be lived with an uncovered face. There can therefore be absolutely no solution other than a ban in all public places."

The rightwing government is determined to push through legislation for a total ban and hopes to make it enforceable by spring of next year. Declaring that "no one can wear a garment in public which is aimed at hiding their face", the bill approved by the cabinet today envisages fining any woman in a niqab or burqa 150 euros.

As an alternative or possibly supplementary measure, they could also be made to take a course in the values of French citizenship. Husbands or partners who make women wear a full veil face a fine of 15,000 eurosor a year in prison.

The legislation, the product of almost a year's discussion and research by French MPs and the government, has focused attention on the country's estimated 5 million Muslims, in particular the small minority of around 2,000 women who are thought to wear the niqab.

This week has seen tensions flare over the issue: last night the police had to be called in to break up clashes during a debate organised by the women's rights group Ni Putes Ni Soumises (Neither Whores or Doormats) and disrupted by pro-Palestinian protesters.

In the western town of Trignac, according to a report in the local newspaper Presse Océan, a shopper tried to snatch the veil from the face of a Muslim woman who had allegedly hit her after hearing derogatory remarks being made about her niqab.

Although it has the support of the Elysée and most members of Sarkozy's rightwing UMP party, the total ban is likely to come under fire from MPs of other political colours when it is debated in parliament in July.

Many opposition figures, while favouring a ban of some kind, have argued the proposed legislation is inapplicable and advocated a more moderate measure that would still allow the niqab on the street.Read more..


ctannie said...

Extremist sentiments are easily ignited, all over the world, even here in Malaysia. I think the French have got a point there, like you, not that I agree with the ban, but c'mon would you not get startled if someone were to approach all covered up with just the eyes showing, at night?

eddy said...

Bro, the Purdah belongs to the deserts of Arabia and Afghanistan where the harsh environment dictates that it be a requirement. The French Government have every right to ban the veil for security reasons.

In my book the French are reasonable people they are OK, they have even agreed to build a mega mosque in Marseille read here:

Viva La France, Viva La Islam.

Anonymous said...

I'm Muslim. But I must say I don't think the French is being repressive here in the case of the full face veil. It's unjust if they say all Muslim women in France should not cover their heads. The ban is strictly on the face veil.
Besides, does Islam require women to be veiled? Perhaps someone knowledgeable can contribute to this discussion.
If they say it's wajib, why is that when we are doing the Haj in makkah, it is haram for women to cover their faces when performing the tawaf?
So I read from this that our religion does not require women to wear the veil.I only know that Muslim women are required to cover their head, the aurat and dress modestly and more so behave modestly.

Drasius said...

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LIVE translation from girl's house: -

POLICEMAN WANTS TO TAKE THE GIRL to HER "PIMP MOTHER" - But THE PEOPLE are not letting them to do so!


Dear Sir/Madam,

We are writing to everyone and anyone who thinks they could help in ANY way to bring justice to Child Molesters in Lithuania and free the little girl from future damages.

This story is frightening and almost impossible to believe, but it is true! It is about a little girl, then 3yrs old who was molested by well known people in Lithuania. The father, Drasius Kedys, tried fighting for his daughter the legal way - by going to the police, by contacting the Child protective Services, by going to state prosecutors and getting nowhere. He then went public. This story brought a huge public interest and resentment toward the Lithuanian authorities. 

Later the father disappeared. The same day of his disappearance there were two suspects of molesting this little girl killed. The blame was put on the father, who months later was found dead in a very public place. Witnesses say, there were torture marks all over his body, however, the experts hired by the state released a statement saying he died of natural causes. 

The main suspect is awaiting a trial, however there is another trial in going on - should the girl be returned to the mother, who knew about the molestation of her daughter and played a big part in it herself! The little girl lives with her father's family right now. This story is full of illogical decisions and incomplete investigations. The media is finding out more and more about this case than the prosecutors (who are obviously covering the pedophile clan) and it is becoming clearer that the arguments presented by the media about the prosecutors hiding evidence regarding this story are true. 

The decision was made by the court to return the girl to her mother, who sold her daughter to these child molesters for the money and better life. Currently, at the very moment - there people gathering around the house where the little girl is staying in order to protect her from returning to her mother.

So we are asking you for any help in this case. We need someone to step in and help us to shut this pedophile clan down and bring justice to this girl. Her fathers wish was to never stop fighting for his girls well-being and he is gone! The Lithuanian authorities are not doing their job right. There is corruption going on and it becoming impossible to fight them! Tomorrow - 2010/05/20 9:00 am (GMT+2) - they are coming with POLICE to take the GIRL! Please, get involved! 

There is a lot of information online about this fight. It's been going on for over two years now.

A Girl’s Story:

International Media:

Foto from Lithuanian National Dailies:

Videos from Lithuanian National Dailies:

Facebook Groups:



LIVE translation from girl's house:

2010/05/20 Fight, incident with police:

Or just Google it: "Drasius Kedys".

If you need any more information - please, write back, or to this e-mail: